⚡ Fits / Funny Turns

RCGP SCA Algorithm — UK Primary Care

NICE NG217SIGN 143DVLA guidelines10-min consult
Fits / Funny Turns — First Episode or Recurrent Covers seizure, syncope, TIA, hypoglycaemia, cardiac arrhythmia, and psychogenic causes
Progress 0 / 9
The full reasoning pathway — the witness account is the key investigation; separate epileptic seizure, syncope and non-epileptic events, exclude status & cardiac causes, investigate (ECG mandatory), then manage, refer to the right clinic and give explicit DVLA/safety advice.StartDecisionInvestigateActionReferStop / Admit
PresentationFits / funny turns (transient LoC)
Detailed before / during / after history + witness account. Triggers, prodrome, posture, movements, tongue-biting (lateral), incontinence, colour, duration, recovery time. 12-lead ECG in everyone.
Step 1 · Safety — status & dangerous causesOngoing event or sinister features?
  • Status epilepticus — seizure >5 min or repeated without recovery → 999
  • Cardiac red flags (TLoC) — exertional/supine onset, no prodrome, palpitations, FH sudden death, abnormal ECG
  • New focal neurology, head injury, or anticoagulated
  • Pregnancy (eclampsia), meningism, or first seizure with fever
YES — red flag
Stop · admit999 / emergency
Status epilepticus → emergency benzodiazepine + admit. Cardiac-syncope red flags → same-day cardiology (arrhythmia, structural). Focal neurology/head injury → urgent assessment.
NO — resolved
Step 2 · InvestigateECG + bloods + collateral
12-lead ECG (QTc, pre-excitation, Brugada), lying/standing BP, glucose, FBC, U&E, calcium; pregnancy test. EEG/MRI are specialist-initiated (don't delay referral to arrange them).
Step 3 · seizure vs syncope vs NEAD
Epileptic seizure
First-fit clinic
Aura, automatisms, lateral tongue-bite, head-turning, prolonged post-ictal confusion → neurology + EEG/MRI.
Syncope
Cardiovascular
Prodrome (light-headed, sweaty, tunnel vision), upright trigger, rapid recovery; brief myoclonic jerks can occur. Vasovagal / orthostatic / cardiac — exclude cardiac.
Non-epileptic / other
Functional / metabolic
Dissociative (non-epileptic attack) seizures, hypoglycaemia, panic/hyperventilation, cataplexy.
Step 7 · manage by diagnosis
Step 7 · Action — manage by causeRefer correctly, advise clearly
  • Suspected first seizure: refer to first-seizure clinic to be seen within 2 weeks; do not start anti-epileptic drugs in primary care — that is a specialist decision after diagnosis.
  • Vasovagal syncope: reassure, explain triggers + counter-pressure manoeuvres, hydration/salt; no driving restriction for typical vasovagal.
  • Orthostatic: review/deprescribe culprit drugs, fluids, compression; cardiac syncope → cardiology.
  • Non-epileptic attacks: sensitive explanation, psychology/neuropsychiatry; treat hypoglycaemia/panic appropriately.
Step 6 · escalation thresholds
Step 6 · ReferEscalation thresholds
  • 999 status epilepticus, cardiac-syncope red flags with ongoing instability.
  • First-seizure clinic (≤2 weeks) any suspected first seizure.
  • Cardiology suspected cardiac syncope (abnormal ECG, exertional, FH sudden death). Neurology / epilepsy recurrent or diagnostic uncertainty. Psychology non-epileptic attacks.
Step 8 · safety advice & lifestyle
Step 8 · Safety advice & lifestyleRisk reduction while awaiting diagnosis
Personal-safety advice for a suspected seizure: shower rather than bath, avoid swimming alone, heights, operating dangerous machinery, and locking the bathroom. Sleep, alcohol moderation and avoiding seizure triggers. Optimise BP and hydration for syncope. Address the cause's modifiable factors.
Step 9 · safety-net & DVLA
Step 9 · Safety-net, follow-up & DVLAWhen to come back · driving rules
999 if a further seizure lasts >5 min, repeated seizures, injury, or no recovery. DVLA (must advise & document): first unprovoked/single seizure — stop driving and notify DVLA (Group 1: off ≥6 months if normal investigations; established epilepsy: ≥12 months seizure-free). Unexplained syncope has its own DVLA rules. The patient must inform DVLA — record that you advised them.
⚠️ The witness is your best investigation — and every patient needs explicit driving (DVLA) and personal-safety advice after a first event, regardless of cause. Never start anti-epileptic drugs in primary care, and never miss a cardiac cause of "collapse" (do the ECG).
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Safety

Red Flags — Must Not Miss

First episode of loss of consciousness or seizure-like activity requires urgent assessment — do not manage in routine follow-up.

Status epilepticus (seizure >5 min) Ongoing convulsion, post-ictal coma not resolving → 999 Life-threatening, requires IV benzodiazepine
First seizure with focal deficit or new headache Todd's paresis, persistent confusion, meningism → 999 Exclude intracranial lesion, encephalitis, SAH
Loss of consciousness + chest pain / palpitations Structural heart disease, exertional syncope → Same-day Cardiac arrhythmia / Stokes-Adams / long QT
Syncope in young patient with family history sudden death Long QT, HOCM, Brugada, WPW → Same-day ECG essential — may need Holter/loop recorder
Focal neurological symptoms >24h post-event Arm weakness, speech difficulty, visual loss → Same-day Suspect TIA/stroke — urgent neurovascular assessment
Recurrent falls in elderly + loss of consciousness Carotid sinus hypersensitivity, heart block → Same-day ECG, lying/standing BP, cardiology
Seizure in known diabetic — severe hypoglycaemia BM <2.8, diaphoresis, confusion → 999 if unconscious, IV dextrose; conscious: oral glucose
Seizure in pregnancy ≥20 weeks Hypertension, proteinuria, headache → 999 Eclampsia — call obstetric emergency team

The clinical challenge is that 30–50% of patients presenting with "fits" do not have epilepsy — syncope and psychogenic non-epileptic attacks (PNEA) are commonly misdiagnosed as epilepsy, leading to unnecessary antiepileptic treatment. Conversely, cardiac syncope from arrhythmia accounts for 15% of sudden cardiac deaths in under-35s and is life-threatening if missed. The single most useful discriminator is a witness account — always obtain collateral history.

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Diagnose

Detailed History — The Most Important Diagnostic Tool

90% of the diagnosis comes from history. Always obtain a witness account — phone the witness if necessary.

Pre-event
Prodrome: aura (epileptic), warning dizziness/visual greying/nausea (vasovagal), palpitations (cardiac). Posture (standing = vasovagal). Activity (exertional = cardiac). Trigger (cough, micturition = situational syncope)
During event (witness)
Colour change (pale = vasovagal/cardiac; cyanosed = epileptic). Duration (seconds = syncope; minutes = epileptic). Movements: tonic-clonic (epileptic), brief myoclonic jerks (can occur in vasovagal), head turning, automatisms
Post-event
Recovery: rapid (<1 min = vasovagal/cardiac). Prolonged confusion >5 min = post-ictal (epileptic). Headache (post-ictal or migraine). Todd's paresis (unilateral weakness = focal epileptic)
Tongue biting
Lateral tongue bite = strongly suggests epileptic seizure (specificity 96%). Tip of tongue bite = non-specific, can occur in syncope
Incontinence
Urinary incontinence occurs in both epilepsy and syncope — NOT discriminatory. Faecal incontinence more specific to epilepsy
Medical history
Known epilepsy? Cardiac disease, structural heart disease? Diabetes? Drug history (epileptogenic drugs: tramadol, ciprofloxacin, tricyclics, antipsychotics)
DVLA question
Always ask about driving. First seizure/syncope: advise to stop driving and notify DVLA. Document this conversation clearly in notes

Lateral tongue biting has a 96% specificity for epileptic seizure — it is the single most reliable feature distinguishing seizure from syncope. Prolonged post-ictal confusion (>5–10 minutes) is equally specific. The Edmonton Syncope Score and LOSS Score help risk-stratify cardiac vs non-cardiac syncope. DVLA notification is a legal requirement — failure to advise patients about driving restrictions after first seizure is a significant medico-legal risk.

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Diagnose

Classify the Event Type

Epileptic seizure
Lateral tongue bite, prolonged post-ictal confusion (>5 min), tonic-clonic movements >1 min, aura preceding event, no clear trigger. High suspicion → refer neurology
Vasovagal syncope
Upright posture, prolonged standing, hot environment, emotional trigger, prodromal nausea/sweating/visual greying, rapid complete recovery (<1 min), pale during event, age <40 often
Cardiac syncope
Exertional, no prodrome, sudden onset without warning, family history sudden death, structural heart disease, abnormal ECG, age >50. High risk: needs same-day assessment
Orthostatic hypotension
On standing, BP drop ≥20 mmHg systolic (or ≥10 diastolic) within 3 min. Medications (antihypertensives, diuretics, alpha-blockers). Autonomic neuropathy (diabetes, Parkinson's)
TIA
Sudden focal neurological symptoms (± loss of consciousness), resolving within 24h. ABCD2 score ≥4 = high risk, needs urgent assessment same day. See TIA algorithm
Hypoglycaemia
Known DM, recent insulin/sulphonylurea dose. Diaphoresis, tremor, confusion resolving with glucose. Check BM immediately. Adjust medication
PNEA (psychogenic)
Long duration (>5 min), variable presentation, eyes closed during event (epileptic = open), normal EEG, emotional stressors, psychiatric history. Refer neurology/psychology

Psychogenic non-epileptic attacks (PNEA) account for 20–30% of first presentations to epilepsy clinics — misdiagnosis leads to years of unnecessary antiepileptic drugs. EEG during an attack showing normal activity confirms PNEA. Cardiac syncope is lethal if missed: Brugada syndrome, long QT, and HOCM cause sudden cardiac death in young, apparently healthy people — the ECG is the key screening test.

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Diagnose

Targeted Examination

Vital signs
BP lying and standing (postural drop). HR (bradycardia → heart block, tachycardia → SVT/VT). Temperature (febrile → encephalitis, metabolic cause)
BM / blood glucose
Immediate capillary glucose. <2.8 mmol/L in context of event = hypoglycaemic attack
Neurological exam
Full cranial nerves, power, tone, reflexes. Focal deficit = structural pathology (TIA/stroke, SOL). Tongue for laceration. Plantar responses
Cardiovascular exam
Auscultation: murmur (HOCM, aortic stenosis → exertional syncope). Carotid bruits. Irregular pulse (AF). Peripheral pulses
Carotid sinus massage
Only in controlled setting (specialist), NOT in primary care without resuscitation facilities. Can precipitate asystole
Eyes
Pupil response (unequal → intracranial pathology). Papilloedema (raised ICP). Nystagmus (posterior circulation)
Tongue & mouth
Fresh lateral laceration = strong evidence of seizure. Previous healed lateral bites also significant. Cheek biting (less specific)

Lying-to-standing BP is essential in any unexplained LOC — orthostatic hypotension is present in 20% of community-dwelling elderly and is frequently missed. An innocent-sounding ejection systolic murmur in a young patient with exertional syncope may indicate HOCM — the murmur increases on Valsalva (unlike aortic stenosis). Papilloedema in a patient with seizures mandates emergency CT before LP — lumbar puncture with raised ICP causes tonsillar herniation.

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Diagnose

Investigations — What to Order and When

All presentations
ECG (mandatory — long QT, Brugada, heart block, delta waves/WPW, ischaemia), BM/glucose, FBC, U&Es, LFTs
Suspected seizure
EEG (refer neurology — not a GP investigation, performed after specialist assessment). CT/MRI head required before AED initiation (NICE NG217). Prolactin NOT routinely recommended
ECG — critical findings
QTc >440 ms (men) / >460 ms (women) → long QT. Delta waves + short PR → WPW. Right bundle branch block + ST elevation V1-V3 → Brugada. Epsilon waves → ARVC
Cardiac monitoring
24h Holter if cardiac arrhythmia suspected. Implantable loop recorder for recurrent unexplained syncope — refer cardiology
Neuroimaging
CT head: first seizure without clear cause, focal deficit, elderly, anticoagulated, head injury. MRI preferred for epilepsy workup (refer neurology for request)
Blood tests — specific
Glucose + HbA1c (DM cause). Electrolytes (Na, Ca, Mg) — hyponatraemia, hypocalcaemia cause seizures. U&Es (uraemic seizures). TFTs (thyroid storm). AED levels if already on treatment
When NOT to investigate
Do NOT order EEG without specialist referral. Do NOT order prolactin (unreliable discriminator). Typical vasovagal in young person: ECG + lying-standing BP, no further imaging needed if clear diagnosis

ECG is the most important immediate investigation — long QT syndrome causes 3,000 UK deaths per year, many in young people without prior symptoms. QTc measurement requires a calibrated measurement (automated ECG machines often miscalculate). NICE NG217 recommends MRI brain as the preferred imaging modality for new seizure — CT misses ~30% of epileptogenic lesions visible on MRI. EEG has false-negative rate of 50% in epilepsy — a normal EEG does NOT exclude epilepsy.

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Refer

Referral — The 2-Week-of-Onset Rule for First Seizure

999
Status epilepticus, seizure with new focal deficit, eclampsia, cardiac syncope with haemodynamic instability, exertional syncope in structurally abnormal heart
Same-day
First seizure — all patients require same-day neurology assessment (NICE NG217). Cardiac syncope — ECG abnormality (long QT, Brugada, heart block). ABCD2 ≥4 TIA
Neurology — urgent
All first seizures to be seen within 2 weeks by epilepsy specialist (NICE NG217). Do NOT start AEDs in primary care — specialist confirms diagnosis first
Cardiology
Exertional syncope, abnormal ECG, structural heart disease, family history sudden death, recurrent unexplained syncope. Holter/loop recorder requests
DVLA notification advice
First seizure: must not drive for 12 months (car), 10 years (Group 2/HGV). Vasovagal syncope: case-by-case DVLA assessment. Document advice given in notes. Give patient written information
Epilepsy specialist nurse
After epilepsy diagnosis confirmed — medication counselling, seizure diary, first aid advice, pregnancy planning (teratogenicity of AEDs)
Primary care manages
Established vasovagal syncope (typical features, normal ECG, normal exam). Orthostatic hypotension — medication review. Hypoglycaemia — DM management adjustment

NICE NG217 is explicit: all patients with a first seizure must be seen by an epilepsy specialist within 2 weeks. Starting AEDs in primary care before specialist review is inappropriate — the diagnosis must be confirmed because 30–50% of "first seizures" are not epilepsy. DVLA rules for seizures are strict and legally binding — there is significant clinical and medico-legal risk in failing to advise patients. For vasovagal syncope, the DVLA publishes specific criteria — direct patients to dvla.gov.uk/medical-conditions.

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Treat

Immediate Management & Primary Care Treatment

Active seizure in surgery
Midazolam buccal First-line
Midazolam 10 mg buccal (adult). If >5 min → 999. Recovery position. Do not restrain. Time the seizure
Vasovagal syncope
Physical counterpressure Evidence-based
Leg crossing, hand gripping, squatting at onset of prodrome. Avoid triggers. Increased salt/fluid intake. Compression stockings
Orthostatic hypotension
Medication review First step
Reduce/stop antihypertensives, diuretics, alpha-blockers. Fludrocortisone 100 mcg OD if refractory (specialist). Rise slowly from bed/chair
Epilepsy (specialist initiated)
AED choice by type Specialist only
Focal: lamotrigine/levetiracetam. Generalised tonic-clonic: valproate (men/post-menopausal), lamotrigine (women of childbearing age). DO NOT start in primary care
AcuteRecovery position + timing — protect head, do not restrain, call 999 if >5 min or not recovering. Record time, witness account, post-ictal state
ImmediateECG + BM — cardiac cause and hypoglycaemia are the two immediately treatable causes. IV/oral glucose if BM <3.0
Short-termDVLA advice + driving restriction — document in notes. Provide patient information leaflet. Advise against operating heavy machinery, swimming alone, working at heights
DefinitiveSpecialist management — AED initiation by epilepsy specialist after MRI/EEG. Pacemaker for symptomatic heart block. ICD for malignant arrhythmia syndromes

Sodium valproate is contraindicated in women of childbearing potential unless there is a Pregnancy Prevention Programme in place (MHRA 2018) — it causes neural tube defects and neurodevelopmental delay in ~10% of in-utero exposed children. Lamotrigine is preferred for women. Physical counterpressure manoeuvres for vasovagal syncope are backed by RCT evidence (PC Trial) — they reduce syncopal episodes by 39% without medication. Every GP surgery should have buccal midazolam for seizure management.

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Lifestyle

Seizure Safety, Triggers & Quality-of-Life Advice

Seizure triggers (epilepsy) Sleep deprivation, alcohol, missed medication, flashing lights (photosensitive — 3% of epilepsy). Stress. Illness/fever. Menstrual cycle. Keep seizure diary.
Sleep hygiene Consistent sleep/wake times. Sleep deprivation lowers seizure threshold. Target 7–9 hours. Address insomnia — benzodiazepines inappropriate long-term.
Alcohol Alcohol lowers seizure threshold AND withdrawal seizures are dangerous. Target <14 units/week for epilepsy patients. Advise complete abstinence during dose changes.
Bathing / swimming safety Epilepsy: shower rather than bath, never swim alone, no unsupervised water activities. Lock bathroom door if children with epilepsy. SUDEP risk from drowning.
Vasovagal triggers Avoid prolonged standing, hot environments, dehydration. Increase fluid intake to 2–2.5 L/day. Extra salt intake 6–9 g/day (improves reflex syncope). Compression stockings.
Driving & work DVLA rules apply — document advice. Some occupations prohibited during driving restriction (train driver, pilot, certain machinery). Occupational health review if relevant.
SUDEP awareness Sudden Unexplained Death in Epilepsy — 1 in 1,000/year in adults. Risk reduced by nocturnal supervision, good seizure control, not lying face-down. Refer to epilepsy.org.uk for resources.
Medication adherence Never stop AEDs suddenly — withdrawal seizure risk. If dose missed: take as soon as remembered. Interactions: contraceptive pill (enzyme-inducing AEDs reduce efficacy — use additional contraception).

SUDEP is the leading cause of death in young people with epilepsy — it kills approximately 1,000 UK people per year. Good seizure control (achieved in ~70% with correct medication) dramatically reduces SUDEP risk. Enzyme-inducing AEDs (carbamazepine, phenytoin, phenobarbital, topiramate, oxcarbazepine) reduce contraceptive pill efficacy by up to 50% — unintended pregnancy with ongoing teratogenic AED exposure is a significant preventable harm. Vasovagal syncope patient education about physical counterpressure techniques prevents ~40% of further episodes.

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Safety

Follow-Up, Monitoring & Safety-Netting

Post-first episode
Review within 1 week. Confirm referral received. Check DVLA advice documented. Assess for further episodes. Review any medication changes. Ensure not driving
Epilepsy established
GP review 3-monthly while establishing control. Annual epilepsy review once stable. Seizure diary review. AED levels (carbamazepine, phenytoin, phenobarbitone — check annually). AED side effect monitoring
AED monitoring
Valproate: LFTs, FBC, ammonia. Carbamazepine: FBC (agranulocytosis), sodium (SIADH). Lamotrigine: rash monitoring. Levetiracetam: mood/behaviour. Phenytoin: gum hyperplasia, ataxia
Vasovagal
Review 4–6 weeks. Confirm trigger avoidance working. No further investigation if typical recurrent vasovagal. Consider tilt-table test referral if refractory
Safety-net 999
Any seizure lasting >5 minutes, cluster of seizures without recovery, new focal deficit after seizure, loss of consciousness with cardiac symptoms, suspected eclampsia in pregnancy
Safety-net same-day
Breakthrough seizure in established epileptic (may indicate infection, missed doses, drug interaction, non-compliance), exertional syncope, new neurological symptoms
Pregnancy planning (epilepsy)
Pre-conception counselling mandatory: folic acid 5 mg OD (not 400 mcg), AED review with neurology, avoid valproate if possible, register on Epilepsy and Pregnancy Register (UKEPPR)
DVLA driving review
After 12-month seizure-free period: DVLA assessment for car licence return. Patients inform DVLA directly — GP supports with medical information on request

Carbamazepine causes hyponatraemia (SIADH) in 5–10% of patients — elderly patients are at particular risk of falls from dilutional hyponatraemia. Valproate causes hyperammonaemia in ~5% — presenting as encephalopathy. Annual review is the NICE standard for established epilepsy — seizure diaries should be reviewed, seizure frequency tracked, and medication step-up considered if breakthrough seizures occurring. Folic acid 5 mg (not the standard 400 mcg) is required in women with epilepsy on AEDs — enzyme-inducing AEDs deplete folate, and higher supplementation is needed to reduce neural tube defect risk.

Educational use only. Based on: NICE NG217 (Epilepsies 2022), SIGN 143 (Diagnosis and management of epilepsy), NICE NG128 (Transient loss of consciousness), DVLA Medical Standards for Fitness to Drive, MHRA Valproate safety guidance. Always adapt to individual patient context.